Well, we're in the midst of this furnace shopping ordeal. Not quite third world bartering, but I was surprised by the amount of sales tactics I had to endure today. It just leaves me feeling... BAD inside. Yet I know the salesman is just trying to do his job and is probably doing a really good job at it, actually. I'm sure his pitch allows a lot of customers to feel really good about spending a lot of money on his product, and he probably brings in really good revenues for his company. I, on the other hand, would rather buy the furnace on the internet in order to save $600, and then find someone qualified to install it for me. You think I'm joking, but I'm actually not.
I had the sheer stupidity to ask this salesperson (who I initially mistook for a furnace technician, or I might not have asked the question) how much it would cost just for installation if we purchased our own product. (Sigh.) I could immediately tell he did NOT like the idea and thought it was an utterly ridiculous suggestion. When he asked if I had the equipment there for him to see, and I told him we hadn't decided whether to order 80% or 95% efficiency yet, and that part of that depended on estimates we got for installation, he seized on what he perceived as my ineptitude, and proceeded to tell me how there was a LOT more to it than just efficiency and how a regular person couldn't possibly know how to choose a furnace for themselves because there are a lot of factors to consider etc. etc. He stopped long enough to ask how I was planning on choosing a furnace. I told him we'd gotten an estimate from another company first, and we were basing our size on what they recommended, plus on internet research I'd done to corroborate their recommendation. He went into his speech again about how furnaces aren't sized like they used to be, there are a lot more factors to consider, and how he is an expert at this and very good at what he does and he would be able to tell us the proper size and to make sure that nothing was off with any little part of it that could make the whole system not work as well.
See, what I do when people talk to me like this is I kind of freeze and open my eyes wide and nod attentively, and say, "oh!" and "uh-huh." I don't like to argue, so I don't tell him that I've spent the last couple of weeks perusing the HVAC forums online and reading articles, and that I know about the Manual J calcs and all the info that needs to go into them, i.e. insulation amounts, window sizes, roof material, siding material, as well as square feet. How I am perfectly aware the other company we got the quote from did not do a Manual J calc and instead based their recommendation on our square footage, as many HVAC contractors still do in order to save time, despite the industry agreeing the Manual J calc is the best way to size a system. I don't tell him that I know there is a lot more to choosing a furnace than simply choosing 80% or 90% efficiency, that I know we also have to choose the number of BTUs for the furnace and number of tons for the AC and whether to choose R22 or R410A refrigerant, and that I have already researched what the proper size is likely to be for our home online. Instead, I stand there and nod, probably giving the appearance that I am eagerly listening and amazed at what I'm being told.
After he finishes his spiel, he asks me what I want to do. I think, "Huh? I thought I already told you?" But I try to play along. "Well... Let's do this. I'd like to get a quote for what it would cost to install a system if we did purchase the equipment from your company." He's at my house already, and I figure it will be helpful to see a comparison to the other quote we had gotten. Maybe his would be lower or he would convince me for some other reason to go with his company and not order the equipment online. I am giving him a fair chance. Besides, I am truly interested in what the Manual J calc will turn out, if it will match the square footage estimate or not. I was too cheap to buy the $49 homeowners version to perform the calculation myself.
Right after I agreed to this, Heath walked in the door. Thank God! I had been thinking the whole time the man was speaking to me, "Heath, I told you I didn't want to tell the guy we wanted to buy the system online, but you told me he wouldn't be offended, that it's just business. Don't ever make me do this again!" I called Heath downstairs, and begged off that I had to finish cooking lunch. I could hear the man giving his spiel to Heath now.
Heath came upstairs after a little while and asked in a hushed voice, "How much did you say the system online cost?" I told him. "He said it would be ....!" And named an amount 2.5 times larger than ordering online and hiring the first company we'd contacted to do installation only. We sat and ate our lunch in uneasy silence until the salesman came up to ask us some more questions. He went outside to do some more calculations, and I told Heath he could not leave again until the salesman was gone. Finally, he came back in and sat down with us to explain what product he was going to recommend, although he did not have the estimate ready yet because he still had to put all the numbers into the Manual J calc program and see which size we would need. We would need to set up another meeting to discuss the actual estimate. He reiterated how important it was to have experts do the job and do it right, and how he was an expert and would make sure the job was done right, and how it was highly unlikely the quote would be any less than such-and-such amount. He said that if someone else gave us a quote as low as the amount Heath had mentioned that we should turn and run from them because they were going to do a poor job.
I knew we were in trouble when at the end of the presentation he complimented us on how he could tell we were really taking in everything he said and wanted to understand it (I'm telling you, it's the big doe eyes and the constant nodding and uh-huh-ing). How it wasn't our fault we didn't know these things (um, we actually did), and that if people would just take the time to explain it... (making a jab at the competitor). He also said, "Sounds good?" at the end of his presentation, like he was fairly sure we'd bought everything he'd said and were convinced. I finally gave my only indication of hesitation, saying "Well, we'll have to consider... " and trailing off impotently. Heath said something that sounded more confident but just as vague.
(Sigh again.)
We set up another meeting time to get the actual estimate. I told Heath that I'm trying to give the guy a fair chance still, and I will consider his product and the reasons he gave us for going with their (way) more expensive quote.
Plus, I want to see that Manual J calc before I order our system online, anyway.